Skip to main content
IBC TotesSan Francisco
Industry · May 2, 2024

We stopped buying from three suppliers this spring

Two brokers and one processor came off our buying list between January and April. None of it was dramatic. All of it was avoidable, and the pattern is worth writing down.
Quote request

Talk to the yard about this

No phone tag — email only

Reading about it is one thing. Tell us what you are actually trying to do and we will tell you what we would use.

Letters, spaces, hyphens and apostrophes only.
Letters, spaces, hyphens and apostrophes only.
We reply here, so it has to be an inbox you read. Disposable addresses are rejected.
US and Canada only — 10 digits. Extensions go in the message.
Filled in automatically from your postal code.
US ZIP (94124) or Canadian postal code (M5V 2T6).
Whole containers. No minimum order.

We only use these details to quote your job. No lists, no resale, no robocalls — we do not even own a phone line.

We dropped three intake suppliers in early 2024: one for repeatedly shipping containers whose prior contents did not match the declaration, one for systematic grade inflation of roughly one full grade, and one whose empty-container paperwork would not have survived an inspection. All three problems were visible in the first twenty units if anyone was checking, which is the actual lesson.

Close view of IBC totes strapped in two tiers on a flatbed trailer, showing 275 gallon labels and ratchet straps
07Straps go over the cage top rail. Over the bottle deforms it
Rows of used caged IBC totes stacked two high on a concrete pad under an overcast sky
01Stacked empties on the receiving pad, four high is the limit
Mixed-condition IBC totes in an outdoor yard under a blue sky, including one heavily stained amber unit
02Mixed grades awaiting triage — the amber one is going to the granulator

The short version

  • Grade inflation of one full grade is the most common supplier problem, and the easiest to measure.
  • Undisclosed prior contents is the only one we treat as unrecoverable.
  • Audit the first twenty units of any new supplier against their own description.
  • A supplier who improves after being told is worth keeping; one who apologises and repeats is not.

Where our stock comes from

Roughly 62% of the containers that enter this yard come directly from the business that emptied them — a brewery, a blender, a packer, a grower. The rest comes through intermediaries: brokers who aggregate small lots, processors who handle other waste streams and pick up totes alongside, and a couple of larger reconditioners who sell us the stock that does not fit their programme.

The direct relationships almost never go wrong, because the person selling us the container is the person who filled it and they have every reason to be accurate. The intermediary channel is where the problems live, and this spring three of them stopped being worth the discount.

Supplier one: prior contents that were not what the paperwork said

A broker we had bought from for two years sent a lot of forty units described as having held food-grade glycerine. Nine of them arrived smelling distinctly of a solvent. Not subtly — you could smell it from the forklift.

We granulated all forty, which cost us about $2,300, and asked for the chain of custody. What came back was a spreadsheet that had clearly been assembled after the fact. The broker had bought a mixed lot, assumed the whole lot matched the majority, and passed that assumption on as a declaration.

This is the one category we treat as unrecoverable, and it is worth being clear about why. Everything downstream of us depends on the prior-contents record being true. If it is not, a food-grade tote we sell to a brewery is a container of unknown history with our name on it. There is no discount that makes that worth carrying.

Supplier two: grade inflation, measured

The second one is less dramatic and much more common. A processor in the Central Valley had been selling us stock described as Grade A. We graded every unit on arrival, as we do with everything, and after six months we had enough data to look at properly.

Six months of intake, September 2023 to February 2024.
Their stated gradeUnitsOur grade: AOur grade: BOur grade: CScrap
Grade A21461118296
Grade B96438477

Only 29% of their Grade A was actually Grade A by our rubric, and 55% was a full grade lower. That is not fraud — grades are supplier-defined and their rubric was genuinely more generous than ours. But we were paying an A price for B stock, which meant our real cost per saleable A unit was about 31% higher than the invoice suggested.

We showed them the table. They offered to reprice, which was fair, and we negotiated for two months before concluding that the simpler answer was to buy from them at Grade B prices and stop pretending. When they would not do that, we stopped buying. No hard feelings, and we would work with them again on a B-priced basis tomorrow.

Supplier three: paperwork that would not survive an inspection

The third was a smaller operation collecting empties from agricultural sites. Their containers were fine. Their documentation on properly-emptied status under the RCRA empty-container rule was, charitably, informal.

This one we tried hard to fix, because the stock was good and the relationship was long. Priya spent two days with them building a rinse-record template and walking through what an inspector would actually ask for. They used it for about six weeks.

The reason this matters is that regulatory exposure travels with the container. If a container that held a regulated product arrives here improperly emptied, we are the ones holding it. Good intentions upstream do not appear on a manifest.

What we changed on our side

The uncomfortable part of all three stories is that the evidence was available early and we did not look hard enough. So the process changed rather than just the supplier list.

  1. Every new supplier now gets a formal first-twenty audit: we grade their first twenty units against their own stated grades and share the result with them before the second order.
  2. Grade concordance is tracked continuously per supplier, not reviewed when somebody gets a bad feeling.
  3. Any odour finding on an incoming lot now quarantines the whole lot rather than the individual unit, until the chain of custody is confirmed.
  4. Empty-container documentation is reviewed before the first collection is booked, not after the truck arrives.

If you sell containers to a reconditioner, or buy from one, the useful takeaway is the first item. Twenty units is enough to see everything, it costs almost nothing to check, and it turns a two-year problem into a two-week conversation.

A single clean 275 gallon caged IBC tote showing its data plate marked 275 Gallon 1041 Liter and Transport 1650 kg max
03A 275 gallon unit after wash, new gasket and leak test

Written by Marisol Trejo, founder & managing partner at IBC Totes San Francisco. Published May 2, 2024. Spotted something wrong? Tell us — we would rather fix it than defend it.